Klevius question: Are "well integrated muslims" in non-muslim societies muslims at all according to Saudi wahhabism/salafism?
Aung San Suu Kyi: There are many moderate muslims who are well integrated in society. Klevius: But are they really muslims?
Aung San Suu Kyi: "No one told me I
was going to be interviewed by a Muslim." Klevius: No one probably tells
you whether your doctor etc. is a muslim either.
Klevius: Does that include Mishal Husain? Is her silence about the
spread of that Saudi sharia islamofascist hate that triggered the
violence in Myanmar, conducive to Human Rights values? Is this why she
so vehemently accuses Bhuddists while forgiving muslims who started the
attacks?
Is Mishal Husain "well integrated in society"?
Mishal
Husain: “The emphasis on what you wear on your head or how many times
you pray, on the outward things rather than what’s in your heart and the
way you treat people, I find slightly misguided,”
Until she
studied at Cambridge University in the early 90s, Husain was not aware
that some people called themselves British muslims: “Before that people
generally said British Asian or ‘of Pakistani heritage’.
But now, Mishal, it seems that you and BBC make a big number of you being a "muslim", sort of. Wonder why, Mishal?
When
her father was posted to Saudi Arabia, Mishal and her mother, were
required to cover themselves completely and wear the abaya, a
floor-length black cloak. “It was… not enjoyable. Not great in the
heat.”
No kidding! So why, Mishal, do you think your sisters over there keep doing it, Mishal?
Mishal
Husain is notorious for being both heavily biased as well as aggressive
in her polemical "interviews" - well in line with BBC's practice if not
its declared policy.
Boris Johnson to Mishal Husain re. the killing of muslim terrorists: 'Corbyn is opposed to shoot to kill.'
Tory
MP Philip Davies said the interview was 'outrageous'. 'Mishal Husain
was acting as if she was the official spokeswoman for Jeremy Corbyn. The
BBC is terribly biased but this was a new low even for the BBC.'
Mishal
Husain has also defended Hamas terrorists who indiscriminately sprayed
rocket propelled granades over civilians in Israel, by complaining that
fewer Jews were hit than muslims in Israel's counter defense.
Pro-Saudi media in the West in general and BBC and its bigoted Saudi
raised muslim presenter Mishal Husain in particular, are the real
culprits behind the suffering of Bhuddists and and muslims in Myanmar.
Aung San Suu Kyi (after being interviewed by BBC's fanatic, bigoted
and hypocritical Saudi raised muslim sharia presenter Mishal Husain):
"No one told me I was going to be interviewed by a Muslim"
Klevius:
You must have missed Klevius writings about islam since 9/11. What a
pity no one has told you that BBC long since converted to islam and now
is the main channel for the islamofascist Saudi dictator family. And as
there's absolutely nothing positive to report about the islamofascist
Saudi dictator family (who is the de facto "guardian of islam") and its
evil tentacles, BBC has become the main "media guardian" of Saudi
wahhabism/salafism and its hate mongering and violence all over the
world, by keeping its compulsory license fee paying viewers/listeners in
complete darkness behind a wall of fake news "reporting". Not even Al
Jazeera can compete.
Peter Popham: There is nothing in Suu Kyi’s
earlier life to lead one to think that she might be bigoted. As I
revealed in my biography of Suu Kyi, The Lady and the Peacock, her first
serious boyfriend when she was a student at Oxford was a Pakistani (he
went on to become a top diplomat for his country), she lived for 20
years in multicultural Britain without manifesting any known anti-Muslim
hostility, and one of the key people who persuaded her to get involved
in Burma’s democracy uprising was Maung Thaw Ka, a Muslim journalist and
author who subsequently died in jail.
So given her tolerant, liberal background, why did she appear to rage about Mishal Husain?
Klevius
answer: Could it be because of Mishal Husain's strange silence about
the role of Saudi islamic hate mongering as the main igniter to the
problem? Muslim atrocities against Bhuddists to a point were it all
boiled over.
Media attention should be directed to the
Saudi/islam initiated wahhabi/salafi muslim hate mongering, violence and
islamic "kuffar" racism and sexism in Myanmar.
However, instead
BBC uses its most bigoted and hypocritical muslim reporter, Pakistan
rooted and Saudi fostered Mishal Husain (yes, the very one who brags
about drinking alcohol, not fasting during Ramadan and not wearing
muslim attires) to create hatred against Bhuddists. Mishal Husain, who,
in front of all the girls/women suffering under sharia islam, also brags
about how she doesn't see any threats to her way of life - although
Klevius uses to remind her that this is because of Human Rights, not
islamic sharia.
The Rohingya of Myanmar – Pawns in an Anglo-Chinese Proxy War Fought by Saudi Jihadists
By Moon of Alabama
Global Research, September 05, 2017
Moon of Alabama 4 September 2017
Region: Asia
Theme: Global Economy, Militarization and WMD, Police State & Civil Rights, US NATO War Agenda
Media
attention is directed to some minor ethnic violence in Myanmar, the
former Burma. The story in the “western” press is of Muslim Rohingya
unfairly vilified, chased out and killed by Buddhist mobs and the army
in the state of Rakhine near the border to Bangladesh. The “liberal
human interventionists” like Human Rights Watch are united with
Islamists like Turkey’s President Erdogan in loudly lamenting the plight
of the Rohingya.
That curious alliance also occurred during the
wars on Libya and Syria. It is by now a warning sign. Could there be
more behind this than some local conflict in Myanmar? Is someone
stocking a fire?
Indeed.
While the ethnic conflict in
Rankine state is very old, it has over the last years morphed into an
Jihadist guerilla war financed and led from Saudi Arabia. The area is of
geo-strategic interest:
Rakhine plays an important part in
[the Chinese One Belt One Road Initiative] OBOR, as it is an exit to
Indian Ocean and the location of planned billion-dollar Chinese
projects—a planned economic zone on Ramree Island, and the Kyaukphyu
deep-sea port, which has oil and natural gas pipelines linked with
Yunnan Province’s Kunming.
Pipelines from the western coast of
Myanmar eastwards to China allow hydrocarbon imports from the Persian
Gulf to China while avoiding the bottleneck of the Strait of Malacca and
disputed parts of the South China Sea.
It is in “Western
interest” to hinder China’s projects in Myanmar. Inciting Jihad in
Rakhine could help to achieve that. There is historic precedence for
such a proxy war in Burma. During World War II British imperial forces
incited the Rohingya Muslim in Rakhine to fight Burmese nationalist
Buddhists allied with Japanese imperialists.
The Rohingya
immigrated to the northern parts of Arakan, today’s Rakhine state of
Myanmar, since the 16th century. A large wave came under British
imperial occupation some hundred years ago. Illegal immigration from
Bangladesh continued over the last decades. In total about 1.1 million
of Muslim Rohingya live in Myanmar. The birthrate of the Rohingya is
said to be higher than that of the local Arakanese Buddhists. These feel
under pressure in their own land.
While these populations are
mixed in some towns there are many hamlets that belong 100% to either
one. There is generally little integration of Rohingya within Myanmar.
Most are officially not accepted as citizens. Over the centuries and the
last decades there have been several violent episodes between the
immigrants and the local people. The last Muslim-Buddhist conflict raged
in 2012.
Since then a clearly Islamist insurgency was build up
in the area. It acts under the name Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army
(ARSA) and is led by Ataullah abu Ammar Junjuni, a Jihadist from
Pakistan. (ARSA earlier operated under the name Harakah al-Yakin, or
Faith Movement.) Ataullah was born into the large Rohingya community of
Karachi, Pakistan. He grew up and was educated in Saudi Arabia. He
received military training in Pakistan and worked as Wahhabi Imam in
Saudi Arabia before he came to Myanmar. He has since brainwashed, hired
and trained a local guerrilla army of some 1,000 Takfiris.
According
to a 2015 report in the Pakistani newspaper Dawn there are more than
500,000 Rohingya in Karachi. They came from Bangladesh during the 1970s
and 1980s on the behest on General Ziaul Haq’s military regime and the
CIA to fight the Soviets and the government of Afghanistan:
Rohingya community [in Karachi] is more inclined towards religion and
they send their children to madressahs. It is a major reason that many
religious parties, especially the Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat, the JI and the
Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl, have their organisational set-up in Burmese
neighborhoods.
…
“A number of Rohingya members living in
Arakan Abad have lost their relatives in recent attacks by Buddhist mobs
in June 2012 in Myanmar,” said Mohammad Fazil, a local JI
activist.Rohingyas in Karachi regularly collect donations, Zakat and
hides of sacrificial animals and send these to Myanmar and Bangladesh to
support the displaced families.
Reuters noted in late 2016 that the Jihadist group is trained, led and financed through Pakistan and Saudi Arabia:
A group of Rohingya Muslims that attacked Myanmar border guards in
October is headed by people with links to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, the
International Crisis Group (ICG) said on Thursday, citing members of
the group.
…
“Though not confirmed, there are indications
[Ataullah] went to Pakistan and possibly elsewhere, and that he received
practical training in modern guerrilla warfare,” the group said. It
noted that Ata Ullah was one of 20 Rohingya from Saudi Arabia leading
the group’s operations in Rakhine State.Separately, a committee of 20
senior Rohingya emigres oversees the group, which has headquarters in
Mecca, the ICG said.
The ARSA Jihadists claim to only attack
government forces but civilian Arakanese Buddhists have also been
ambushed and massacred. Bugghist hamlets were also burned down.
The
government of Myanmar alleges that Ataullah and his group want to
declare an independent Islamic State. In October 2016 his group started
to attack police and other government forces in the area. On August 25
this year his group attacked 30 police stations and military outposts
and killed some 12 policemen. The army and police responded, as is usual
in this conflict, by burning down Rohingya townships suspected of
hiding guerrilla forces.
To escape the growing violence many
local Arakanese Buddhist flee their towns towards the capitol of
Rankine. Local Rohingya Muslim flee across the border to Bangladesh.
Only the later refugees seem to get international attention.
The
Myanmar army has ruled the country for decades. Under economic pressure
it nominally opened up to the “west” and instituted “democracy”. The
darling of the “west” in Myanmar is Daw Aung San Suu Kyi. Her party won
the elections and she has a dominant role in the government. But Aung
San Suu Kyi is foremost a nationalist and the real power is still held
by the generals.
Aung San in Burma National Army uniform (Source: Wikimedia Commons)
While
Aung San Suu Kyi was propped up as democratic icon she has little
personal merit except being the daughter of Thakin Aung San, a famous
leader of the Burma Independence Army (BIA) and the “father of the
nation”. In the 1940s Thakin Aung San was recruited by the Imperial
Japanese Army to wage a guerrilla war against the colonial British army
and the British supply line to anti-Japanese forces in China:
The young Aung San learned to wear Japanese traditional clothing, speak
the language, and even took a Japanese name. In historian Thant
Myint-U’s “The River of Lost Footsteps,” he describes him as “apparently
getting swept away in all the fascist euphoria surrounding him,” but
notes that his commitment remained to independence for Myanmar.
The ethnic strife in Rakhine also played a role in the British-Japanese conflict over Burma:
In April 1942, Japanese troops advanced into Rakhine State and reached
Maungdaw Township, near the border with what was then British India, and
is now Bangladesh. As the British retreated to India, Rakhine became a
front line.Local Arakanese Buddhists collaborated with the BIA and
Japanese forces but the British recruited area Muslims to counter the
Japanese.
“Both armies, British and Japanese, exploited the
frictions and animosity in the local population to further their own
military aims,” wrote scholar Moshe Yegar
When the British won
against the Japanese Thakin Aung San change sides and negotiated the end
of British imperial rule over Burma. He was assassinated in 1947 with
the help of British officers. Since then Burma, later renamed to
Myanmar, was ruled by ever competing factions of the military.
Thakin
Aung San’s daughter Aung San Suu Kyi received a British education and
was build up for a role in Myanmar. In the 1980s and 90s she quarreled
with the military government. She was given a Nobel Peace Prize and was
promoted as progressive defender of human rights by the “western”
literati. But she, and the National League for Democracy (NLD). she
leads, were always the opposite – ultra-right fascists in Buddhist
Saffron robes. The hypocrites are now disappointed that she does not
speak out in favor of the Rohingya. But doing so would put her on the
opposite side her father had famously fought for. It would also put her
in opposition to most of the people in Myanmar who have little sympathy
for the Rohingya and their Jihadi fight.
Moreover – the Chinese
OBOR projects are a huge bon for Myanmar and will help with its economic
development. The Saudis and Pakistani send guerilla commanders and
money to incite the Rohingya to Jihad in Myanmar. This is a historic
repeat of the CIA operation against Soviet influence in Afghanistan. But
unlike in Afghanistan the people of Myanmar are not Muslim they will
surely fight against, not join, any Jihad in their country. The Rohingya
are now pawns in the great game and will suffer from it.
